alwayswellsaid

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Also,  https://www.facebook.com/blingeecoffeehour/
   Blingee Coffee Hour



Artistic, Creative....Talented...Genius
 

                ENJOY.....

....my imagination never ceases

....always an artist at heart

....such Beauty in the Lord's Creation & Perfection
    opulence...knowledge...beauty...strength
          well being....and reputation ('karma')

WELCOME TO MY PAGE .............ENJOY!


Just a big blue sky to imagine.......


Michael Jackson - Earth Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU&list=PL97BF3D58DB3B4D95

*****Find me on Pinterest too.....http://pinterest.com/janestevens41/boards/

            

FAVORITES/ VINTAGE*VICTORIAN*CUTE*PINK*GLITTER*FLOWERS*FASHIONS
SCRAPBOOKS_BACKGROUNDS_TO_PRINT*ANTIQUE*NOSTALGIA
AND GOOD OL' HUMOR* SATIRE* WHIMSY*



I'm on Blingee because I love doing Artwork.
Oils and paints, or anything else is expensive
    and very time consuming.....


I LOVE to do Artwork.....searching for the right stamps or colors etc....well, I wish they'd just pop up, because I only enjoy doing them the way I want it to look....although they arn't always exactly the way I want.

           *  *  *  *  *  *  *

If you enjoy my Bling's you are more than welcome to  peruse them....
           *  *  *  *  *  *  *


I believe Art is an expression of something and not necessarily a personal opinion or belief. It provokes thought, emotions and feelings in the forms of Artistic creations, which entertain us, motivate us and remind us about things in life, past and present.
 
I have my own personal favorites.


       Welcome to my page....

       and enjoy...


You WILL find some EYE CANDY here, if you peruse my  pages....and I hope it will bring sunshine, happiness and peace to your day.....


Colored pencils, paints, canvas & paper.....

OMG, I love this!

I wish I had a giant screen the whole size of a wall covered with blingee 'tiles'....
...and of course my Blingee machine slideshow

           ********************

  
I'm the mother of four daughters. I live in the middle of the USA. My big box of colored pencils is gathering dust....One of these days I'm going to print all of my Blingee's and put them in a 'notebook' & a digitized photo frame.....

"I'm a lucid dreamer and I've lately noticed I've been making Blingee's in my sleep, too."  : ) but true....
When I have nightmares I actually fling myself off the bed trying to get away...but not too many nightmares.  : )   : )

My ancestry is Northern European. England, Ireland, Holland, Sweden, Denmark, France, and NW Germany. My oldest American roots date to the 1600's in the Hudson Valley prior to George Washington. I also have Quaker roots. They all eventually migrated to the Midwest and purchased farmland. I found out what a city was when I was 7 years old when we moved there.

I was born in August.
I'm a Baptized Christian.
Politics: whatever solves the problems
Interests: Global Issues, Study (various), Music and  Arts, Geoscience (especially earthquakes and   volcanoes which I check everyday on the USGS online), surfing the web so that I can see all of the beautiful places around the globe and Historic places, sewing doll clothes and my own, I play flute and piano, I love swimming (in clean pools), and my patio rock garden area which is an ongoing work in progress (which I Love, no scenery here except crops) I LOVE the mountains! 
And much more......

Favorite Movies: Terminator ll, Peacemaker, Stealth Fighter  
    
Favorite Music: EVERYTHING....I LOVE MUSIC.....
stereos and surround sound are THEE greatest invention of technology.....http://bln.gs/b/263qv3
                         http://bln.gs/b/263crw
                         http://bln.gs/b/263q2y

I've studied many many things and have a lot of my own books. There are so many interesting things, and to me I'd go crazy if I were constantly wondering. I couldn't begin to share them all here.

I LOVE THE INTERNET! I'VE SEEN SO MANY PLACES AROUND THE WORLD! I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THAT!!!!



    Prayer...this is prayer and Glory to God

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KtScrqtbc&list=PLpHkkShaUM7SRyoULCYeifehnR8CAbU-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAFj2-u2cGQ&list=PL97BF3D58DB3B4D95

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAFj2-u2cGQ&list=PL97BF3D58DB3B4D95

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxrX42WcjQ



                alwayswellsaid
      1st Year/      2012 /  1213 /  2014 /  2015   
TOTAL Blingee's  836/    ?/    3269 /  4361   5000+
Number 1.....?   /  ?  /   4/   4/
Number 2.....?   /  ?  /   1/   2/
Number 3.....2   /  ?  /   4/   8/       
Top 10......1    /  ?  /   6/   31/
Top 25.....12    /  ?  /       152/
Top 50.....29    /  ?  /       99/
Top 100....62    /  ?  /       382/
2000PTS....9     /  ?  /       34/
1500PTS....247   /  ?  /       1072/
1000PTS....1307  /  ?  /    /     /

Challenge Trophies.....31   / 137   / 285 / 435
Gold Badges......120         / 1310  / 2714 / 3786
Silver Badges....689         / 1285  / 3204 / 4292
ICON Badge Count Total....195     / 392   / 606 / 826
Stamp Contributions.......6816   / 673  / 9609 / 1773
Postcards..........0          / 179   / 1666 / 1757
Spotlight..........  ?      /   ?   / 105 / 168
Gifts..............  ?     /    ?  /  89  / 136


*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #2
......3/24/18
http://bln.gs/b/29dxo0

*BEST WINTER COMPETITION  #1
of 350 ENTRIES.....3/3/18
http://bln.gs/b/29dh3d

*BEST BABY COMPETITION   #1
OF 183 ENTRIES.....11/1/13
http://bln.gs/b/27ii0m

*BEST SUMMER COMPETITION   #1
OF 935 ENTRIES.....7/26/13
http://bln.gs/b/2761m9

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION   #3
OF 735 entries.....11/15/13
http://bln.gs/b/27k1jh

*BEST SUMMER COMPETITION   #3
of 616 entries.....8/16/13
http://bln.gs/b/279peu

*BEST VALENTINE COMPETITION   #1
OF 2474 ENTRIES.....2517 POINTS  2/15/13


*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #1
OF 782 ENTRIES.....2345 POINTS   2/1/13
http://bln.gs/b/26fny6

*BEST WINTER COMPETITION  #3
OF 663 ENTRIES.....2354 POINTS   2/8/13
http://bln.gs/b/26habv

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #3
OF 1157 ENTRIES.....2399 POINTS   10/14/11
http://bln.gs/b/2324nj

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #3
OF 1313 ENTRIES.....2666 POINTS   4/22/11
http://bln.gs/b/21400i

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #5
of 1000 ENTRIES.....2432 POINTS   12/16/11
http://bln.gs/b/23nmht

BEST CHRISTMAS COMPETITION #32
of 4163 ENTRIES.....              12/23/11
http://bln.gs/b/23pk7k

BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION #26
of 1846 ENTRIES.....              1/06/12
http://bln.gs/b/23twh1

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #11
of 879 ENTRIES.....               1/06/12
http://bln.gs/b/23tw6z

*BEST FUNNY COMPETITION #3
of 476 ENTRIES.....               1/06/12
http://bln.gs/b/23vmqe

*BEST WINTER COMPETITION #4
of 1188 ENTRIES.....              1/27/12
http://bln.gs/b/23m1kq

BEST GIRL COMPETITION #16
of 2316 ENTRIES.....              2/10/12
http://bln.gs/b/24532k

*BEST WINTER COMPETITION #5
of 792 ENTRIES                    2/24/12
http://bln.gs/b/249020

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #3
of 1278 ENTRIES                   3/2/12
http://bln.gs/b/24bez3

BEST MOTHERS DAY COMPETITION #10
of 737 ENTRIES.....               5/25/12
http://bln.gs/b/24yf9a

*BEST SPRING COMPETITION #5
of 1050 ENTRIES.....              6/1/12
http://bln.gs/b/24zikt

BEST MOTHER DAY COMPETITION #13
of 662 ENTRIES.....               6/1/12
http://bln.gs/b/24zkgx

BEST GIRL COMPETITION #19
of 2049 ENTRIES                   6/1/12
http://bln.gs/b/24zy05

*BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION #5
of 2069 ENTRIES                   6/8/12
http://bln.gs/b/251llh

BEST FRIEND COMPETITION #11
of 696 ENTRIES                    6/8/12
http://bln.gs/b/2510xp

*BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION #3  
of 1857 ENTRIES                   6/22/12
http://bln.gs/b/2552us

*BEST GIRL COMPETITION #4
of 2241 ENTRIES    (Liz)          6/29/12
http://bln.gs/b/2560cu

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #2  
of 907 ENTRIES                    7/21/12
http://bln.gs/b/25au34

***BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #1
of 952 ENTRIES                    8/10/12
http://bln.gs/b/25gejc

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #3     
of 954 ENTRIES                    9/07/12
http://bln.gs/b/25nh44

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #4
of 865 ENTRIES                    10/26/12
http://bln.gs/b/25vsyd

*BEST FRIENDS COMPETITION #3
of 478 ENTRIES                    3/22/13
http://bln.gs/b/26o9m8

*BEST SPRING COMPETITION #7
of 1583 ENTRIES                   4/5/13
http://bln.gs/b/26qekh

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #2
of 813 ENTRIES                    4/12/13
http://bln.gs/b/26s7w9

*BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION #5
of 804 ENTRIES                    4/26/13
http://bln.gs/b/26u0d1

*BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION  #10
of 1593 ENTRIES                   5/17/13
http://bln.gs/b/26xqqp

*BEST FUNNY COMPETITION  #4
of 243 ENTRIES                    6/14/13
http://bln.gs/b/27181p

*BEST BABY COMPETITION  #7
of 237 ENTRIES                    6/28/13
http://bln.gs/b/273c68

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #5
of 664 ENTRIES                    12/20/2013
http://bln.gs/b/27lwun

BEST BABY COMPETITION   #2
of 212 ENTRIES                 1/24/14
http://bln.gs/b/27rqqg

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION   #2
of 647 ENTRIES                 5/23/14
http://bln.gs/b/27zy09

BEST BABY COMPETITION   #3
of 226 ENTRIES                 8/8/14
http://bln.gs/b/281a39

BEST GIRL COMPETITION   #8
(Elizabeth) of 1033 ENTRIES    8/29/14
http://bln.gs/b/285fh4

BEST EMO COMPETITION   #1
of 168 ENTRIES                 10/10/14
http://bln.gs/b/2877j6

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #2
of 605 ENTRIES                 03/13/15
http://bln.gs/b/

BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION  #1
of 1241 ENTRIES                03/20/15
http://bln.gs/b/28eu5i

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION  #1
of 585 ENTRIES                 05/1/15
http://bln.gs/b/28gla1

BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION  #2
of 844 ENTRIES                 07/17/15
http://bln.gs/b/28j9og

BEST EMO COMPETITION       #1
of 188 ENTRIES                 08/07/15
http://bln.gs/b/28jvpa

BEST EMO COMPETITION       #2
of 143 ENTRIES                 08/21/15
http://bln.gs/b/28kerc

BEST GIRL COMPETITION      #2
of 606 ENTRIES                 08/21/15
http://bln.gs/b/28kj40

BEST CELEBRITY COMPETITION #2
of 369 ENTRIES                 12/4/15
http://bln.gs/b/263qv3

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION   #1
of 652 ENTRIES                 12/11/15
http://bln.gs/b/28p949

BEST ARTISTIC COMPETITION  #1
of 1341 ENTRIES                 12/29/15
http://bln.gs/b/28rkxs

BEST VINTAGE COMPETITION   #2
of 710 ENTRIES                  12/29/15
http://bln.gs/b/28ri8i

BEST CHRISTMAS COMPETITION #2
of 1591 ENTRIES                 12/23/16    
http://bln.gs/b/2933x2

BEST SPRING                #3    6/17/15

BEST VINTAGE               #4    6/24/15

BEST SUMMER                #6    6/24/15

And grateful for my Blinging friends.......

From My Friends   

Nannyjay          http://bln.gs/b/23viiw
                  http://bln.gs/b/24byfr
                  http://bln.gs/b/
                  http://bln.gs/b/258p48
Juliet_at_heart   http://bln.gs/b/23qy1h
                  http://bln.gs/b/195li1
                  http://bln.gs/b/259bj3
                  http://bln.gs/b/265afr
                  http://bln.gs/b/26894b
jcgellibert       http://bln.gs/b/23h918
                  http://bln.gs/b/25p3pl
                  http://bln.gs/b/269jhv
Venusz1           http://bln.gs/b/23pgt3
                  http://bln.gs/b/238u8u 
Dubravka4         http://bln.gs/b/28jpvx
                  http://bln.gs/b/2496gh
                  http://bln.gs/b/2632bs
                  http://bln.gs/b/26beok
                  http://bln.gs/b/26jpbh
                  http://bln.gs/b/2632bs
                  http://bln.gs/b/27eb3a
                  http://bln.gs/b/27lg7e
                  http://bln.gs/b/27pzmq
                  http://bln.gs/b/2934i2
amonrising        http://bln.gs/b/2508y3
adina_maria       http://bln.gs/b/25g0ln
                  http://bln.gs/b/25l09j
                  http://bln.gs/b/25vbn2
                  http://bln.gs/b/26kq0v
Nuria73           http://bln.gs/b/25by9a
                  http://bln.gs/b/25zmbx
arentine          http://bln.gs/b/25g2ee
                  http://bln.gs/b/25w43t
                  http://bln.gs/b/257530
sarayminerva      http://bln.gs/b/25hldt
ladylil           http://bln.gs/b/25w47s
silvenna          http://bln.gs/b/25ilv1
villemo20         http://bln.gs/b/25j5s2
                  http://bln.gs/b/269w70
                  http://bln.gs/b/27p2gz
                  http://bln.gs/b/27q62c
Sirikith          http://bln.gs/b/25p23p
                  http://bln.gs/b/266psb
shihtzus          http://bln.gs/b/271kie
                  http://bln.gs/b/25v8co
                  http://bln.gs/b/26xbba
                  http://bln.gs/b/260jho
                  http://bln.gs/b/261ud4
                  http://bln.gs/b/267g6l
                  http://bln.gs/b/269sd5
                  http://bln.gs/b/26bcw3
                  http://bln.gs/b/26bhd5
                  http://bln.gs/b/26wmk6
gervaise 2        http://bln.gs/b/28f9hw
                  http://bln.gs/b/267mdg
                  http://bln.gs/b/26jpep
                  http://bln.gs/b/27pmwf
                  http://bln.gs/b/28bjql
loveblinkmike     http://bln.gs/b/267urh
                  http://bln.gs/b/27x67z
                  http://bln.gs/b/286buc
                  http://bln.gs/b/285ye4
                  http://bln.gs/b/28aa9r
                  http://bln.gs/b/28hljb
aneczka           http://bln.gs/b/293aay
                  http://bln.gs/b/28xnov
                  http://bln.gs/b/28kon9
                  http://bln.gs/b/284ira
                  http://bln.gs/b/27alou
                  http://bln.gs/b/268uy0
                  http://bln.gs/b/26rgx3
                  http://bln.gs/b/2778mq
                  http://bln.gs/b/27ptpb
                  http://bln.gs/b/284cy2
                  http://bln.gs/b/28b2yh
                  http://bln.gs/b/28ew64
joyful226         http://bln.gs/b/28l8pn
                  http://bln.gs/b/276tfq
                  http://bln.gs/b/268wzc
                  http://bln.gs/b/27o9xk
                  http://bln.gs/b/27q1h9
                  http://bln.gs/b/28ea6q
donja01           http://bln.gs/b/26j6dq
byrd2599          http://bln.gs/b/26kenb
                  http://bln.gs/b/26tdjt
campertraveler    http://bln.gs/b/26nrc6
                  http://bln.gs/b/26qjk3
                  http://bln.gs/b/27p44t
                  http://bln.gs/b/2883dk
Framboise2010     http://bln.gs/b/26nyni
                  http://bln.gs/b/289psz
Hidalgo28         http://bln.gs/b/20ge2c
                  http://bln.gs/b/27q0u5
lousei            http://bln.gs/b/1zofzn
                  http://bln.gs/b/27q2ad
Tirsah            http://bln.gs/b/24316f
                  http://bln.gs/b/284sv7
LisaD             http://bln.gs/b/
luvlybear         http://bln.gs/b/2707hv
mldb10            http://bln.gs/b/24gtdx
smalbox           http://bln.gs/b/271o3z
                  http://bln.gs/b/27pd4c
miras46           https://bln.gs/b/29n6q7 
                  https://bln.gs/b/29m3a1
                  http://bln.gs/b/2995lm
                  http://bln.gs/b/28zi62
                  http://bln.gs/b/28ke0t
                  http://bln.gs/b/28ke0t
                  http://bln.gs/b/28j6x5
                  http://bln.gs/b/2811pi
                  http://bln.gs/b/272wm8
                  http://bln.gs/b/27eyo3
                  http://bln.gs/b/27nzfu
                  https://bln.gs/b/29xgh1
sunshinemausi66   http://bln.gs/b/273sfs
m.believer        http://bln.gs/b/2754k8
ludmilla 1959     http://bln.gs/b/28hkki
                  http://bln.gs/b/284ii8
                  http://bln.gs/b/2764nd
                  http://bln.gs/b/27rda2
                  http://bln.gs/b/27c3f3
                  http://bln.gs/b/27e44r
                  http://bln.gs/b/27hw2f
                  http://bln.gs/b/27io4y
                  http://bln.gs/b/27li6p
                  http://bln.gs/b/27mb79
                  http://bln.gs/b/27pteu
                  http://bln.gs/b/27sw2e
                  http://bln.gs/b/27vlnr
dagmarb           http://bln.gs/b/27k1o3
evilchefmania     http://bln.gs/b/27a073
pennysworld       http://bln.gs/b/27n0fc
                  http://bln.gs/b/27ovsb
                  http://bln.gs/b/27px6u
blinker1968       http://bln.gs/b/27p0qp
lubovl            http://bln.gs/b/27p25j
                  http://bln.gs/b/27ufpd
                  http://bln.gs/b/26jnd6
marilena2007      http://bln.gs/b/27p4fx
imprettygirl1     http://bln.gs/b/27q78d
eaujardin         http://bln.gs/b/27q2mq
cuddles4          http://bln.gs/b/27q278
                  http://bln.gs/b/27vjbz
REGINA62          http://bln.gs/b/27pd4c
AM9505            http://bln.gs/b/27q3yu
ery94th           http://bln.gs/b/27q2z6
Princesainsana    http://bln.gs/b/27at5m
mimib06           http://bln.gs/b/29dor7                                   
                  http://bln.gs/b/29doh
                  http://bln.gs/b/28ziaw
                  http://bln.gs/b/28y3b8
                  http://bln.gs/b/28klfg
                  http://bln.gs/b/27qb13
                  http://bln.gs/b/28npct
weinhex           http://bln.gs/b/26n0it
AnnaLena54        http://bln.gs/b/27ski7
Джелит            http://bln.gs/b/27vucc
                  http://bln.gs/b/27w6y5
                  http://bln.gs/b/2872ev
Athaliah          http://bln.gs/b/293lga
                  http://bln.gs/b/28asdo
                  http://bln.gs/b/28vbrz
Marishka          http://bln.gs/b/27xhmp
Chrystalline7     http://bln.gs/b/27ymnh
RedHeadsRule      http://bln.gs/b/281khn
Mitzi26           http://bln.gs/b/285006
                  http://bln.gs/b/28u7t1
KMBJTH            http://bln.gs/b/2851hs
din63             http://bln.gs/b/283esg
grandma5          http://bln.gs/b/2861y9
SunMoonStars      http://bln.gs/b/28bcf8
                  http://bln.gs/b/288qju
                  http://bln.gs/b/28hlmd
Preciousbaby63    http://bln.gs/b/288qkn
                  http://bln.gs/b/288vjm
m1a6c             http://bln.gs/b/28b9sq
Rapunzel63        http://bln.gs/b/28evxc
PuddleDuckie      http://bln.gs/b/28lf8a
Fairyirish04      http://bln.gs/b/28qkmu
SRK-Fan           http://bln.gs/b/28rh94
jenniferswe  http://bln.gs/b/293b1e

forgive me if I forgot to post any......
 
I just made my #5000 Blingee....http://bln.gs/b/28owks
Seems impossible to make so many :D


Thanks Blingee!!! and Blingee Team!!!!!

And THANK YOU stampmakers!!!!


Now, it's time to make a Blingee Masterpiece........!


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DouceSophie

DouceSophie disse:

959 days atrás
Blingee is possible, I am very happy !!!read my profile if you want to know how is this possible!
mitzi26

mitzi26 disse:

1154 days atrás
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        ░S░C░R░A░P░L░A░N░D░
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MEMO...

http://blingee.com/group/30751/topic/118344--SCRAPLAND-MEMO-
BBB338

BBB338 disse:

1162 days atrás
Happy Healthy New Year 2021!
Dear Friend,

For safety of your computer, from possible hackers,  Adobe says to uninstall Adobe Flash Player by 12-1-2021 (Jan. 12, 2021). Already 3 countries in Europe that I know of BLOCKED-Flash Player-Germany, Italy, and Poland. Here is the link to the warning I got: 

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html

Important to read this page! I uninstalled mine! Hopefully, Blingee finds a solution soon!
I am Mollycat2020 on pixmix!
mitzi26

mitzi26 disse:

1170 days atrás
❄´¯`༄ .¸¸.❅´¯`.❅¸.❄´¯`༄ .¸¸.❅´¯`.❄
    ❅      ❅      SCRAPLAND   ❅
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NEW CHALLENGE...

http://blingee.com/group/30751/topic/118335
patchie3340

patchie3340 disse:

1178 days atrás
Bonjour,
Si toi aussi tu veux participer au défi "dernier coucher de soleil 2020" 
Bonne chance.http://blingee.com/challenge/view/10211-DERNIER-COUCHER-DE-SOLEIL-2020-LAST-SUNSET-2020
mimib06

mimib06 disse:

1210 days atrás
http://bln.gs/b/29yob3 
Thank you for your friendship,hugs Mira.
mitzi26

mitzi26 disse:

1222 days atrás
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NEW CHALLENGE...

http://blingee.com/group/30751/topic/118277
mitzi26

mitzi26 disse:

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NEW CHALLENGE...

http://blingee.com/group/30751/topic/118209

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